[london]全新歐六volvo B5TL/wright Gemini 3

原帖由 93A_S3_6:30am 於 2013-10-18 13:28 發表

又係Wow，
睇番相B5LH先係尾跨長，而B5TL正常，
我仲以為兩者底盤設計係相若添！

No. They do share the same front chassis module and the engine.

Just a couple of correction on my previous post. V6's unladen weight is actually 10,835kg. With that it can carry 100 passengers (layout: H41/22D+37), making it currently the highest capacity bus in service within the London Buses network.

其實而家E400需求不足，訂一架黎睇下批巴士表現如何(用番AVBWS個編號？)

原帖由 HW8373 於 2013-10-15 22:00 發表
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又係一個富爭議性既時候，正如新 E500 被稱為 E500 MMC (巴士書)、E500NG (行內離誌)、E50D、Trident E500 Turbo (鐵牌)
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離題講開又講
西瓜波自己都係搞唔清楚
初先叫 MMC，用左一排又改口叫 Turbo
相比起 DENNIS 年代，底盤名真係沒有最差，只有更差，仲引人圍繞住個 Turbo 諗埋晒啲爛 GAG

原帖由 FS1819 於 2013-10-18 00:38 發表
B5TL係橫置，尾跨應該係同B9TL差唔多，而比B5LH短
新底盤輕300kg，連新車身比同級B9TL輕一噸。

另外，最新一期Buses透露，B5TL減去TfL裝備可以再輕1噸，而出年會有新頭幅設計。
UVW 10995kg ...

想起香港的那兩部兩軸B9TL
因為車輛本身過重而限制了載客量
這款車型的出現，解決了B9重量上的問題
更有力的跟E400抗衡
看來引進香港也挺適合的
然而香港崎嶇山路多，而且巴士要加裝大功率冷氣機
對於只有5.1L的新款引擎會是一個巨大挑戰

原帖由 hellomato 於 2013-10-19 13:45 發表

想起香港的那兩部兩軸B9TL
因為車輛本身過重而限制了載客量
這款車型的出現，解決了B9重量上的問題
更有力的跟E400抗衡
看來引進香港也挺適合的
然而香港崎嶇山路多，而且巴士要加裝大功率冷氣機
對於只有5.1L的新款引 ...

正路都會用D9B-260+摩打
用得細車 就預埋佢要上山 5.1L邊夠扭力推部車上山

原帖由 TankKingEH9697 於 2013-10-19 06:21 發表
正路都會用D9B-260+摩打
用得細車 就預埋佢要上山 5.1L邊夠扭力推部車上山

D9B won't do for Euro 6, for that it will be the new, and slightly smaller 7.7L D8K engine, which is available with an output between 280 - 350 bhp. If that happens, it will be the B8TL that we will see instead.

http://euro6.volvobuses.com/pdf/Volvo-D8K-Euro6-Fact-Sheet-EN.pdf

原帖由 NV58 於 19-10-2013 17:44 發表


D9B won't do for Euro 6, for that it will be the new, and slightly smaller 7.7L D8K engine, which is available with an output between 280 - 350 bhp. If that happens, it will be the B8TL that we will ...

In the latest Buses, they specifically said there will not be a 3-axle version of B5TL.
I am not sure if that means the chassis will never have a 3-axle option, or if it is just the powertrain that will not.

I am eager to see the new B5TL and B5LH chassis. I want to know how they are 300kg lighter.
Hopefully, it isn't too arched like the ADL E50D.
edit: It is interesting why they did not make a B5RLE, citing lack of customer support, when they have a B5RLEH in Australia.
http://www.volvobuses.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/VBC/Australia%20-%20ILF/Downloads/B5RLEH%20data%20sheet.pdf

[ 本帖最後由 FS1819 於 2013-10-19 18:05 編輯 ]

原帖由 FS1819 於 2013-10-19 10:00 發表

In the latest Buses, they specifically said there will not be a 3-axle version of B5TL.
I am not sure if that means the chassis will never have a 3-axle option, or if it is just the powertrain that w ...

They have already covered the B7RLE's replacement with B8RLE.

For the tri-axle option, a B8TL makes better sense because of the power needed for the air-cond. However, I won't be surprised if they go all out to offer a hybrid only, i.e. tri-axle B5LH. They are doing that for the 7900 these days, which has no diesel only version anymore. So why not, esp. if they can keep the price down?